Comments on: Just Say No To UHT Milk http://www.foodrenegade.com/just-say-no-to-uht-milk/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:24:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Darcy http://www.foodrenegade.com/just-say-no-to-uht-milk/#comment-1057975 Darcy Tue, 31 Jan 2012 04:58:24 +0000 http://www.foodrenegade.com/?p=1639#comment-1057975 I started buying Organic Valley recently but was confused why organic milks expiration date was always over a month so I googled and found out about UHT and then I found this gloomy article. THANK YOU for your comment because I was about to toss mine out and never drink it again because of the whole "If a product will not support microscopic life, it is not likely to support human life" statement. I agree with u that others need to decide whats good or bad for them but when u have a valid point no need to scare people with false information in the process and that's what this article did. I'm thankful for your comment so that this article didn't turn me into a chicken little like I'm sure it did for many others. I started buying Organic Valley recently but was confused why organic milks expiration date was always over a month so I googled and found out about UHT and then I found this gloomy article.

THANK YOU for your comment because I was about to toss mine out and never drink it again because of the whole “If a product will not support microscopic life, it is not likely to support human life” statement.

I agree with u that others need to decide whats good or bad for them but when u have a valid point no need to scare people with false information in the process and that’s what this article did. I’m thankful for your comment so that this article didn’t turn me into a chicken little like I’m sure it did for many others.

]]> By: nicola http://www.foodrenegade.com/just-say-no-to-uht-milk/#comment-1055955 nicola Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:29:32 +0000 http://www.foodrenegade.com/?p=1639#comment-1055955 Thank you for this information. My toddlers grandparents insist on giving him UHT milk whilst he is at their house despite my pleas against him having this milk. As a child it would make me feel very sick and give me a headache if I drank. Since finding out that they use it too I have asked them not to give it to my son however they ignore my request and have continued to do so. Your site had provided me with information that I needed which I can print off and share with them to prove that this variety of milk really is quite unhealthy. Thank you for this information. My toddlers grandparents insist on giving him UHT milk whilst he is at their house despite my pleas against him having this milk. As a child it would make me feel very sick and give me a headache if I drank. Since finding out that they use it too I have asked them not to give it to my son however they ignore my request and have continued to do so. Your site had provided me with information that I needed which I can print off and share with them to prove that this variety of milk really is quite unhealthy.

]]> By: JayTee http://www.foodrenegade.com/just-say-no-to-uht-milk/#comment-1013092 JayTee Sat, 14 Jan 2012 06:11:27 +0000 http://www.foodrenegade.com/?p=1639#comment-1013092 I worked on a cruise ship with several Italians, and they love their morning cappuccino. After we took on a supply of UHT milk they found that it did not froth as nicely and mostly didn't really froth at all. Boy did we hear a lot of colourful language during those weeks. Obviously UHT milk doesn't always have a problem frothing. I think it was just that particular brand from Thailand or Malaysia. I worked on a cruise ship with several Italians, and they love their morning cappuccino. After we took on a supply of UHT milk they found that it did not froth as nicely and mostly didn’t really froth at all. Boy did we hear a lot of colourful language during those weeks.
Obviously UHT milk doesn’t always have a problem frothing. I think it was just that particular brand from Thailand or Malaysia.

]]> By: Rody http://www.foodrenegade.com/just-say-no-to-uht-milk/#comment-1004895 Rody Tue, 10 Jan 2012 18:28:51 +0000 http://www.foodrenegade.com/?p=1639#comment-1004895 Sorry man you don't know what you're talking about. I do prefer raw milk to pasteurized however, I make kefir from UHT organic milk all the time. In fact it cultures quicker than raw milk since there is no competing bacteria. The yeasts and bacteria in kefir only feed off of the lactose in the milk. My kefir grains are also growing very well in the UHT milk. On the other hand, if you want to make yogurt, the first step is to heat milk until it is relatively sterile (essentially pasteurizing) and then let it cool until you reach the proper temperature for the cultures to grow. If you don't heat the milk, the starter will not be able to culture the milk and you will not be able to make yogurt. Sorry man you don’t know what you’re talking about. I do prefer raw milk to pasteurized however, I make kefir from UHT organic milk all the time. In fact it cultures quicker than raw milk since there is no competing bacteria. The yeasts and bacteria in kefir only feed off of the lactose in the milk. My kefir grains are also growing very well in the UHT milk. On the other hand, if you want to make yogurt, the first step is to heat milk until it is relatively sterile (essentially pasteurizing) and then let it cool until you reach the proper temperature for the cultures to grow. If you don’t heat the milk, the starter will not be able to culture the milk and you will not be able to make yogurt.

]]> By: humm http://www.foodrenegade.com/just-say-no-to-uht-milk/#comment-998529 humm Sun, 08 Jan 2012 02:51:51 +0000 http://www.foodrenegade.com/?p=1639#comment-998529 Did you ever consider that drinking milk itself is kinda gross? I mean, you are drinking the bodily fluids of an animal that poops all over itself and its friends. Would you drink your friend's breast milk? Probably not. Yet you will drink it a cow? Just a thought! I drink milk of all kinds, so I'm not trying to antagonize. It just seems a bit silly that you all are so passionate about preserving the nature of milk, yet it is quite UNnatural that humans consume the bodily fluids meant for baby cows. Did you ever consider that drinking milk itself is kinda gross? I mean, you are drinking the bodily fluids of an animal that poops all over itself and its friends. Would you drink your friend’s breast milk? Probably not. Yet you will drink it a cow? Just a thought!

I drink milk of all kinds, so I’m not trying to antagonize. It just seems a bit silly that you all are so passionate about preserving the nature of milk, yet it is quite UNnatural that humans consume the bodily fluids meant for baby cows.

]]> By: Jessica http://www.foodrenegade.com/just-say-no-to-uht-milk/#comment-968959 Jessica Fri, 23 Dec 2011 10:57:18 +0000 http://www.foodrenegade.com/?p=1639#comment-968959 "Just like we who support raw milk will go to sites of people who are saying raw milk is bad and try to convince them otherwise. Except we know the facts!!!" Sooo, you know the facts but no one else does? How do you not see the flaw in that type of thinking? “Just like we who support raw milk will go to sites of people who are saying raw milk is bad and try to convince them otherwise. Except we know the facts!!!”

Sooo, you know the facts but no one else does? How do you not see the flaw in that type of thinking?

]]> By: Joe in Missouri http://www.foodrenegade.com/just-say-no-to-uht-milk/#comment-943567 Joe in Missouri Fri, 09 Dec 2011 17:25:31 +0000 http://www.foodrenegade.com/?p=1639#comment-943567 Helen Would you agree that fresh fruit and vegetables are better for you than heated and canned vegetables? The heating kills all of the enzymes and destroys much of it's nutritional value. Don't you think the same thing happens with milk? BTW all sorts of things that are awful for us "taste delicious". If taste were the only criteria I would have a 5 pound canister of MSG in my kitchen - but I know better. Helen
Would you agree that fresh fruit and vegetables are better for you than heated and canned vegetables?
The heating kills all of the enzymes and destroys much of it’s nutritional value.

Don’t you think the same thing happens with milk?

BTW all sorts of things that are awful for us “taste delicious”. If taste were the only criteria I would have a 5 pound canister of MSG in my kitchen – but I know better.

]]> By: Joe in Missouri http://www.foodrenegade.com/just-say-no-to-uht-milk/#comment-943565 Joe in Missouri Fri, 09 Dec 2011 17:22:05 +0000 http://www.foodrenegade.com/?p=1639#comment-943565 Neil I think the China study hit upon some truths, but it is also true that people that do not eat the right animal products (see the work of Weston A Price) do not have the dental health of those that eat these animal products. Neil
I think the China study hit upon some truths, but it is also true that people that do not eat the right animal products (see the work of Weston A Price) do not have the dental health of those that eat these animal products.

]]> By: Helen http://www.foodrenegade.com/just-say-no-to-uht-milk/#comment-931125 Helen Sat, 03 Dec 2011 21:07:38 +0000 http://www.foodrenegade.com/?p=1639#comment-931125 Just to reiterate what others have said above, you CAN make yoghurt from UHT milk (or at least, the brands that I buy in the UK), I make it on a daily basis and see our daily yoghurt as a foundation for gut health! It can't be completely dead if it undergoes this process can it? I would not drink UHT milk, but then I don't drink any milk unless it has been turned into butter, cheese or yoghurt as I find it much easier to digest these products. Yoghurt made from UHT milk is delicious!!! Have really enjoyed some of these articles. We will not always agree on what is good for us, each person has an individual and personal health journey, but many thanks for firing the debate! Namaste :) Just to reiterate what others have said above, you CAN make yoghurt from UHT milk (or at least, the brands that I buy in the UK), I make it on a daily basis and see our daily yoghurt as a foundation for gut health! It can’t be completely dead if it undergoes this process can it? I would not drink UHT milk, but then I don’t drink any milk unless it has been turned into butter, cheese or yoghurt as I find it much easier to digest these products. Yoghurt made from UHT milk is delicious!!!

Have really enjoyed some of these articles. We will not always agree on what is good for us, each person has an individual and personal health journey, but many thanks for firing the debate!

Namaste :)

]]> By: Jerry http://www.foodrenegade.com/just-say-no-to-uht-milk/#comment-924573 Jerry Thu, 01 Dec 2011 01:33:39 +0000 http://www.foodrenegade.com/?p=1639#comment-924573 An additional question I have. Some organic milk companies "enhance" or add Omega 3, DHA, to their milk. This is done by adding the same type of vitamin fish oil pills you buy in the drug store. Except they don't use fish oil they use vegetable based Omega 3. Question is, Are the additives they are putting in the milk organic? Not a big deal but I think people who drink it should be assured the vegetable oil being added to their milk is organic. An additional question I have. Some organic milk companies “enhance” or add Omega 3, DHA, to their milk. This is done by adding the same type of vitamin fish oil pills you buy in the drug store. Except they don’t use fish oil they use vegetable based Omega 3. Question is, Are the additives they are putting in the milk organic?

Not a big deal but I think people who drink it should be assured the vegetable oil being added to their milk is organic.

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