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		<title>By: The Top Class Guy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Golf Simulator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Golf Simulator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clearing the myths.</description>
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		<title>By: Geo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 08:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am diabetic and following medical advice to eat a normal diet I became worried about my very large waist measurement in proportion to my body and all the warnings about the likelihood of a heart attack.

Purely by my own &#039;common sense&#039; I decided that if my body doesn&#039;t deal well with carbohydrate I should try simply cutting them out.  I have been on my diet for 11 months now, have lost the middle weight and look of normal proportions and feel much better.

My blood results are good, cholesterol is good even though I refuse to take statins and I am never hungry.  I eat protein at every meal, not more than before though, plenty of colourful veg and salad, butter, cream, cheese and enjoy my food.   I won&#039;t pretend I don&#039;t miss crusty bread or lovely chips but I don&#039;t want them because I know my blood sugar will shoot up within minutes if I have them.  

I have no fruit either apart from, berries and cherries which I sometimes cook and sweeten with &#039;stevia&#039;.

I hope this helps someone as I found it very hard at first defying current medical and dietary advice but I am glad I did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am diabetic and following medical advice to eat a normal diet I became worried about my very large waist measurement in proportion to my body and all the warnings about the likelihood of a heart attack.</p>
<p>Purely by my own &#8216;common sense&#8217; I decided that if my body doesn&#8217;t deal well with carbohydrate I should try simply cutting them out.  I have been on my diet for 11 months now, have lost the middle weight and look of normal proportions and feel much better.</p>
<p>My blood results are good, cholesterol is good even though I refuse to take statins and I am never hungry.  I eat protein at every meal, not more than before though, plenty of colourful veg and salad, butter, cream, cheese and enjoy my food.   I won&#8217;t pretend I don&#8217;t miss crusty bread or lovely chips but I don&#8217;t want them because I know my blood sugar will shoot up within minutes if I have them.  </p>
<p>I have no fruit either apart from, berries and cherries which I sometimes cook and sweeten with &#8216;stevia&#8217;.</p>
<p>I hope this helps someone as I found it very hard at first defying current medical and dietary advice but I am glad I did.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can watch &quot;Fat Head&quot; for free on Hulu.  There are a few commercials, but it&#039;s 1 1/2 hours long, so just consider it an opportunity to stretch.  :)  

My Mom has been on a low-carb diet for a little over a year.  She has lost about 70 lbs and has been building muscle - she&#039;s 67!   

I&#039;m convinced, so I&#039;m trying it, too.  I recently switched to butter.  I also started putting heavy cream in my coffee instead of half-and-half.  I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s the thing to do, but I love coffee and I love cream in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can watch &#8220;Fat Head&#8221; for free on Hulu.  There are a few commercials, but it&#8217;s 1 1/2 hours long, so just consider it an opportunity to stretch.  <img src='http://www.foodrenegade.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>My Mom has been on a low-carb diet for a little over a year.  She has lost about 70 lbs and has been building muscle &#8211; she&#8217;s 67!   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m convinced, so I&#8217;m trying it, too.  I recently switched to butter.  I also started putting heavy cream in my coffee instead of half-and-half.  I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s the thing to do, but I love coffee and I love cream in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Realizing that I&#039;m posting on a cold thread, I was thinking about Sean&#039;s comment and some of my own experiences as I&#039;ve learned more about food over the past year. My wife and I have done our best to adopt changes like removing sugar and vegetable oils from our diet, eating more dairy and grass-fed/pastured meat. We&#039;ve met some great local farmers as we&#039;ve done so. However, I can definitely say that we&#039;ve offended some of our good friends as well, without meaning to, simply by changing the way we eat, and by talking so much about food. I tend to get excited when I learn things, and I tend to turn into a preacher if I don&#039;t restrain myself, but I&#039;ve met some pretty stiff resistance when it comes to food. 

Thinking about it, though, is this so surprising? Is it really that wrong to feel a near-religious zeal when it comes to what you take into your body? Hasn&#039;t food always been linked to faith, whether it is Friday fish or sacred cows, forbidden pork or untouchable liver? Don&#039;t many religions teach that the body is a temple? The thing that struck me most as I read Weston Price&#039;s work is that the modern, science-driven approach to eating is the real anomaly.

That being said, I believe that patience and love are the root of any real religious feeling. So, even though food is important--maybe even vitally important--there has to be some room for allowing other people to eat just as they please, even if we&#039;re personally convinced it is going to kill them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Realizing that I&#8217;m posting on a cold thread, I was thinking about Sean&#8217;s comment and some of my own experiences as I&#8217;ve learned more about food over the past year. My wife and I have done our best to adopt changes like removing sugar and vegetable oils from our diet, eating more dairy and grass-fed/pastured meat. We&#8217;ve met some great local farmers as we&#8217;ve done so. However, I can definitely say that we&#8217;ve offended some of our good friends as well, without meaning to, simply by changing the way we eat, and by talking so much about food. I tend to get excited when I learn things, and I tend to turn into a preacher if I don&#8217;t restrain myself, but I&#8217;ve met some pretty stiff resistance when it comes to food. </p>
<p>Thinking about it, though, is this so surprising? Is it really that wrong to feel a near-religious zeal when it comes to what you take into your body? Hasn&#8217;t food always been linked to faith, whether it is Friday fish or sacred cows, forbidden pork or untouchable liver? Don&#8217;t many religions teach that the body is a temple? The thing that struck me most as I read Weston Price&#8217;s work is that the modern, science-driven approach to eating is the real anomaly.</p>
<p>That being said, I believe that patience and love are the root of any real religious feeling. So, even though food is important&#8211;maybe even vitally important&#8211;there has to be some room for allowing other people to eat just as they please, even if we&#8217;re personally convinced it is going to kill them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin@How To Get Your Ex Back</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 12:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for this. My gym dietitian is against saturated fat. I told her that I used coconut oil for cooking and she said it&#039;s the worst oil for cooking. I didn&#039;t want to offend her authority on nutrition by arguing about the healthy effects of saturated fats so I just let her have her moment and lied to her that I will stop using it. I should refer her to this article though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for this. My gym dietitian is against saturated fat. I told her that I used coconut oil for cooking and she said it&#8217;s the worst oil for cooking. I didn&#8217;t want to offend her authority on nutrition by arguing about the healthy effects of saturated fats so I just let her have her moment and lied to her that I will stop using it. I should refer her to this article though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 04:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saturated fats by themselves are not the problem. However, they do increase risk of many disease by at least two mechanisms.
1) Saturated fats cause increase translocation of LPS (part of gram-negative bacteria wall) from intestinal lumina into circulation. This triggers TLR4 sensors on various cells  which leads to NFkB activation which triggers pro-inflammatory cytokines such as IL1b, TNFa, and IFNg.
2) Saturated fats causes cells to reduce uptake of glucose thus leaving more in the blood stream. 

Combine above with a high-PUFA, low-fiber, high-carb, high-protein diet and you increase your risk of SyndromeX, diabetes, hypertension, CVD, arthritis, cancer, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saturated fats by themselves are not the problem. However, they do increase risk of many disease by at least two mechanisms.<br />
1) Saturated fats cause increase translocation of LPS (part of gram-negative bacteria wall) from intestinal lumina into circulation. This triggers TLR4 sensors on various cells  which leads to NFkB activation which triggers pro-inflammatory cytokines such as IL1b, TNFa, and IFNg.<br />
2) Saturated fats causes cells to reduce uptake of glucose thus leaving more in the blood stream. </p>
<p>Combine above with a high-PUFA, low-fiber, high-carb, high-protein diet and you increase your risk of SyndromeX, diabetes, hypertension, CVD, arthritis, cancer, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been an issue swirling around in my head for the past few years.  I am healthy and eat a balanced diet.  I am not afraid of saturated fats.  Yet, my 13 year old daughter has familial hypercholesterolemia with a lipid protein A disease.  Her liver generates too much cholesterol and the extra proteins damage the arteries making the cholesterol stick .  Working with her heart doctor, she is encouraged to eat a low-fat, low saturated fat, no hydrogenated fat diet.  Problem.  She eats too much carbs and sugars and her triglycerides are high.  She is still warming up to veggies and only eats them in small amounts.  She&#039;s picky about fruits too.  She is on a low statin drug and with the modified diet and increasing her exercise, she has been able to lower her total cholesterol to the low 200&#039;s.  Her doctor is very pleased, yet I wonder if her diet will have an effect on her in other ways down the road and I have often wondered if I add more healthy whole fats (dairy) to satiate her and keep her from craving so much carbs and sugars if it would hurt her.   I guess I&#039;m looking for more educated thoughts on consuming saturated fats for people with a predisposition to heart disease.  My daughter&#039;s father died at 35 of a heart attack.  Heart disease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been an issue swirling around in my head for the past few years.  I am healthy and eat a balanced diet.  I am not afraid of saturated fats.  Yet, my 13 year old daughter has familial hypercholesterolemia with a lipid protein A disease.  Her liver generates too much cholesterol and the extra proteins damage the arteries making the cholesterol stick .  Working with her heart doctor, she is encouraged to eat a low-fat, low saturated fat, no hydrogenated fat diet.  Problem.  She eats too much carbs and sugars and her triglycerides are high.  She is still warming up to veggies and only eats them in small amounts.  She&#8217;s picky about fruits too.  She is on a low statin drug and with the modified diet and increasing her exercise, she has been able to lower her total cholesterol to the low 200&#8242;s.  Her doctor is very pleased, yet I wonder if her diet will have an effect on her in other ways down the road and I have often wondered if I add more healthy whole fats (dairy) to satiate her and keep her from craving so much carbs and sugars if it would hurt her.   I guess I&#8217;m looking for more educated thoughts on consuming saturated fats for people with a predisposition to heart disease.  My daughter&#8217;s father died at 35 of a heart attack.  Heart disease.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too many web sites are promoting coconut oil, palm oil and soy bean oil. All of these oils will eventually harm you. I only use olive and grape seed oil. I do not use saturated oils, butters, margarines, Trans fats (hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils), any processed soy product, and vegetable oils like cotton seed, corn, and canola. Three years ago I switched to olive and grape seed oil. It has made such a change to my body, it lowered my total cholesterol over 100 points and I do not eat oat meal or take meds. My blood pressure is now 60 over 105 it was 90 over 135. I now have a pulse of 58. I am over 40 years old. My doctor is baffled how I achieved this with out meds. I mostly eat egg whites, chicken, turkey, lean pork, some fish - not too much because of mercury, vegetables, fruits, rice, home made bread, and my favorite chocolate peanut butter muffins only sweetened with apple sauce! I avoid eating out, you cannot control what&#039;s in that food. I do not eat deli meats, hot dogs, and bacon, all have high sodium and nitrates that can cause colon and prostate cancers. I do not eat soy products because they cause hormone issues and inflammation of arteries around the heart. I also do not drink tap water because it contains chlorine and high amounts of iron which can be harmful if you have hemochromotosis - genetic disorder that goes undetected by most doctors in the U.S. that makes the body store too much iron and will eventually kill you by the time your in your 50’s and is usually misdiagnosed as either a heart attach or liver cancer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many web sites are promoting coconut oil, palm oil and soy bean oil. All of these oils will eventually harm you. I only use olive and grape seed oil. I do not use saturated oils, butters, margarines, Trans fats (hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils), any processed soy product, and vegetable oils like cotton seed, corn, and canola. Three years ago I switched to olive and grape seed oil. It has made such a change to my body, it lowered my total cholesterol over 100 points and I do not eat oat meal or take meds. My blood pressure is now 60 over 105 it was 90 over 135. I now have a pulse of 58. I am over 40 years old. My doctor is baffled how I achieved this with out meds. I mostly eat egg whites, chicken, turkey, lean pork, some fish &#8211; not too much because of mercury, vegetables, fruits, rice, home made bread, and my favorite chocolate peanut butter muffins only sweetened with apple sauce! I avoid eating out, you cannot control what&#8217;s in that food. I do not eat deli meats, hot dogs, and bacon, all have high sodium and nitrates that can cause colon and prostate cancers. I do not eat soy products because they cause hormone issues and inflammation of arteries around the heart. I also do not drink tap water because it contains chlorine and high amounts of iron which can be harmful if you have hemochromotosis &#8211; genetic disorder that goes undetected by most doctors in the U.S. that makes the body store too much iron and will eventually kill you by the time your in your 50’s and is usually misdiagnosed as either a heart attach or liver cancer</p>
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		<title>By: Mason</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sean, from many months ago:

I sympathize with the issue of the &quot;cult-like fervor&quot; of WAPF converts.  For people who were raised on the myths of &quot;margarine=good, butter=bad; chicken breast=good, steak=bad&quot; -- as I was -- having that dogma turned on its head tends to lead to a sense of having found the Rosetta stone of health; however, experience has proved to me that a healthy diet is only *one* factor is overall health.  And unfortunately, changing one&#039;s diet in adulthood is never going to significantly undo the damage incurred from a childhood of &quot;fake food&quot;.  Much to my dismay.

The WAPF Foundation is perhaps over-critical of vegan diets.  I have met, online and in real life, vegans of many years who appeared to be in good health...

The caveat is, *multi-generational* veganism is unsustainable.  Vegan mothers will have less robust children (and indeed many pregnant vegetarians are forced by bodily cravings to modify their diets), and if god forbid the children are raised without access to dietary cholesterol and vitamin-rich fats, they will face serious fertility problems as adults.  If somehow they manage to have children, the fertility and health problems will be even greater in the next generation.

Do I know this for certain?  No -- but there is strong circumstantial evidence from the Pottenger studies and other anecdotal data about children raised on skim milk vs. whole, vegetarian societies vs. omnivore societies (e.g. &quot;among immigrants in London from the Indian subcontinent, vegetarian Hindu Asians were found to have an 8.5 fold increased risk of tuberculosis, compared to Muslims who ate meat and fish daily.&quot;), and so on.  I was also recently reminded (watching a Nova program) that it was the switch to an animal/flesh-intensive diet that allowed our hominid ancestors to develop the height and brain capacity that made us self-aware, technologically adept, etc.  (The science behind this change in bodily structure is quite fascinating.)  Some of the most ancient hominid sites show large collections of roasted, cracked marrow bones, or grilled shellfish.

In any case, your commitment to &quot;compassionate eating&quot; is commendable, but if nothing else I&#039;d recommend consuming fresh local seafood and quality butter as a supplement to your diet.  Shrimp, mussels, oysters, etc. are barely sentient, they are wild, and very healthy.  Dairy is quite compassionate when bought from local farmers.  As Michael Pollan noted, nutritional science is in its infancy, and there are many micronutrients that are as yet undiscovered; abstaining from all animal substances in the belief that one can find a good combination of plant food to replace it is, frankly, naive.  Particularly if one desires to have children.

My two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sean, from many months ago:</p>
<p>I sympathize with the issue of the &#8220;cult-like fervor&#8221; of WAPF converts.  For people who were raised on the myths of &#8220;margarine=good, butter=bad; chicken breast=good, steak=bad&#8221; &#8212; as I was &#8212; having that dogma turned on its head tends to lead to a sense of having found the Rosetta stone of health; however, experience has proved to me that a healthy diet is only *one* factor is overall health.  And unfortunately, changing one&#8217;s diet in adulthood is never going to significantly undo the damage incurred from a childhood of &#8220;fake food&#8221;.  Much to my dismay.</p>
<p>The WAPF Foundation is perhaps over-critical of vegan diets.  I have met, online and in real life, vegans of many years who appeared to be in good health&#8230;</p>
<p>The caveat is, *multi-generational* veganism is unsustainable.  Vegan mothers will have less robust children (and indeed many pregnant vegetarians are forced by bodily cravings to modify their diets), and if god forbid the children are raised without access to dietary cholesterol and vitamin-rich fats, they will face serious fertility problems as adults.  If somehow they manage to have children, the fertility and health problems will be even greater in the next generation.</p>
<p>Do I know this for certain?  No &#8212; but there is strong circumstantial evidence from the Pottenger studies and other anecdotal data about children raised on skim milk vs. whole, vegetarian societies vs. omnivore societies (e.g. &#8220;among immigrants in London from the Indian subcontinent, vegetarian Hindu Asians were found to have an 8.5 fold increased risk of tuberculosis, compared to Muslims who ate meat and fish daily.&#8221;), and so on.  I was also recently reminded (watching a Nova program) that it was the switch to an animal/flesh-intensive diet that allowed our hominid ancestors to develop the height and brain capacity that made us self-aware, technologically adept, etc.  (The science behind this change in bodily structure is quite fascinating.)  Some of the most ancient hominid sites show large collections of roasted, cracked marrow bones, or grilled shellfish.</p>
<p>In any case, your commitment to &#8220;compassionate eating&#8221; is commendable, but if nothing else I&#8217;d recommend consuming fresh local seafood and quality butter as a supplement to your diet.  Shrimp, mussels, oysters, etc. are barely sentient, they are wild, and very healthy.  Dairy is quite compassionate when bought from local farmers.  As Michael Pollan noted, nutritional science is in its infancy, and there are many micronutrients that are as yet undiscovered; abstaining from all animal substances in the belief that one can find a good combination of plant food to replace it is, frankly, naive.  Particularly if one desires to have children.</p>
<p>My two cents.</p>
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