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		<title>By: Walter Jeffries</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter Jeffries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a butter fan too. Margarine&#039;s just &#039;okay&#039; but butter is delicious. Depending on what we are cooking we tend to use back fat, leaf lard, butter or olive oil. I wouldn&#039;t say that margarine is &#039;evil&#039; but I&#039;m not fond of it.

The back fat and leaf lard are from our pigs and 90% of their diet is pasture/hay. 7% of their diet is dairy (whey, milk, cream, butter, cheese...) from pastured goats and cows so that is effectively more pasture. Almost all of the rest of their diet (3%) is pumpkins, beets, turnips and other good things we grow. I have found a lab who will do the tests and one of these days I&#039;m going to send them samples to test for Omega-3 Fatty Acids, Omega-6, etc. Given that our pigs eat so much healthy pasture and their dairy comes from pastured sources I suspect the pig fat and meat will be high in the good fatty acids. It will be interesting to see.

Cheers

-Walter
Sugar Mountain Farm
in the mountains of Vermont
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a butter fan too. Margarine&#8217;s just &#8216;okay&#8217; but butter is delicious. Depending on what we are cooking we tend to use back fat, leaf lard, butter or olive oil. I wouldn&#8217;t say that margarine is &#8216;evil&#8217; but I&#8217;m not fond of it.</p>
<p>The back fat and leaf lard are from our pigs and 90% of their diet is pasture/hay. 7% of their diet is dairy (whey, milk, cream, butter, cheese&#8230;) from pastured goats and cows so that is effectively more pasture. Almost all of the rest of their diet (3%) is pumpkins, beets, turnips and other good things we grow. I have found a lab who will do the tests and one of these days I&#8217;m going to send them samples to test for Omega-3 Fatty Acids, Omega-6, etc. Given that our pigs eat so much healthy pasture and their dairy comes from pastured sources I suspect the pig fat and meat will be high in the good fatty acids. It will be interesting to see.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>-Walter<br />
Sugar Mountain Farm<br />
in the mountains of Vermont<br />
<a href="http://SugarMtnFarm.com" rel="nofollow">http://SugarMtnFarm.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kitty,

Regarding long-term results, consider the context.  Butter and other naturally saturated animals fats have been consumed by humans for eons (and remember, butter is a mammal milk fat and last time I checked, we were mammals!), but artificial butter/margerine has a relatively short dietary history that begins in the Industrial Age in mid-19th century (for artificial butter made with other animal fats and flavorings) and really takes off in the early-mid 20th century (with hydrogenated plant oils in wha twe know call margerine).  I&#039;ll put my odds on the natural fats with the long dietary history vs. the industrially manufactured fats with the short dietary history any day.  

Also, be sure to read Stephan&#039;s entire post on this study, not just the excerpt on this blog.  Stephan has a host of posts and comments that discuss the healthful virtues of butter backed by by science (if not by the industries that profit from the processing of commodity and waste products like soybean and corn oil).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kitty,</p>
<p>Regarding long-term results, consider the context.  Butter and other naturally saturated animals fats have been consumed by humans for eons (and remember, butter is a mammal milk fat and last time I checked, we were mammals!), but artificial butter/margerine has a relatively short dietary history that begins in the Industrial Age in mid-19th century (for artificial butter made with other animal fats and flavorings) and really takes off in the early-mid 20th century (with hydrogenated plant oils in wha twe know call margerine).  I&#8217;ll put my odds on the natural fats with the long dietary history vs. the industrially manufactured fats with the short dietary history any day.  </p>
<p>Also, be sure to read Stephan&#8217;s entire post on this study, not just the excerpt on this blog.  Stephan has a host of posts and comments that discuss the healthful virtues of butter backed by by science (if not by the industries that profit from the processing of commodity and waste products like soybean and corn oil).</p>
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		<title>By: tina</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eleanor - organic is not enough.  The butter needs to be pastured.  It&#039;s more important to me to have my butter come from cows that are grass-fed.  

Organic simply means that the grains (corn and soy) fed to the cows are organic.  Not good enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eleanor &#8211; organic is not enough.  The butter needs to be pastured.  It&#8217;s more important to me to have my butter come from cows that are grass-fed.  </p>
<p>Organic simply means that the grains (corn and soy) fed to the cows are organic.  Not good enough!</p>
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		<title>By: Eleanor Sommer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eleanor Sommer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We LOVE butter! And we are always looking for the best quality at the best price. No time to make our own, at least not until we retire.

Publix Supoermarkets, a good quality chain in the Southeast, just starting carrying a store brand organic butter, but I am always skeptical and want to know where my food comes from, so I sent a letter asking. No response yet. But you can read my letter on my blog and also my call to action that more of us write to the companies and retailers we buy from and ask questions and let them know what we want: healthy, fresh, humanely grown and raised food packaged in sustainable, nontoxic containers.
.-= Eleanor Sommer´s last blog post ...&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eksommer.com/2009/11/01/publix-food-and-taking-control-of-your-food/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Do You Know Where Your Food Comes From?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We LOVE butter! And we are always looking for the best quality at the best price. No time to make our own, at least not until we retire.</p>
<p>Publix Supoermarkets, a good quality chain in the Southeast, just starting carrying a store brand organic butter, but I am always skeptical and want to know where my food comes from, so I sent a letter asking. No response yet. But you can read my letter on my blog and also my call to action that more of us write to the companies and retailers we buy from and ask questions and let them know what we want: healthy, fresh, humanely grown and raised food packaged in sustainable, nontoxic containers.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Eleanor Sommer´s last blog post &#8230;<a href="http://www.eksommer.com/2009/11/01/publix-food-and-taking-control-of-your-food/" rel="nofollow">Do You Know Where Your Food Comes From?</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.foodrenegade.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Local Nourishment</title>
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		<dc:creator>Local Nourishment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! Congrats on your article making the Food News Journal! How exciting!
.-= Local Nourishment´s last blog post ...&lt;a href=&quot;http://localnourishment.com/2009/10/29/what-joel-salatin-said/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What Joel Salatin Said&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! Congrats on your article making the Food News Journal! How exciting!<br />
<span class="cluv"> Local Nourishment´s last blog post &#8230;<a href="http://localnourishment.com/2009/10/29/what-joel-salatin-said/" rel="nofollow">What Joel Salatin Said</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.foodrenegade.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Kitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the results of this study but it bothers me that they didn&#039;t show the long term butter results like they did the margarine. If you don&#039;t show both sides of the equation, so to speak, then it seems you&#039;re hiding something. I do eat real butter, and will continue to do so, but I can&#039;t really get all excited when I feel like they were withholding some information. Do you know where I can find it?

Thanks
Kitty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the results of this study but it bothers me that they didn&#8217;t show the long term butter results like they did the margarine. If you don&#8217;t show both sides of the equation, so to speak, then it seems you&#8217;re hiding something. I do eat real butter, and will continue to do so, but I can&#8217;t really get all excited when I feel like they were withholding some information. Do you know where I can find it?</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Kitty</p>
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		<title>By: emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for the fabulous information!

i too, :  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mplsrealfoodlover.com/2009/10/butter-love.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&gt; love butter&lt;/a&gt;
.-= emily´s last blog post ...&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mplsrealfoodlover.com/2009/10/inspiring-sweet-recipe-links.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Inspiring (sweet) Recipe Links&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for the fabulous information!</p>
<p>i too, :  <a href="http://www.mplsrealfoodlover.com/2009/10/butter-love.html" rel="nofollow">&gt; love butter</a><br />
<span class="cluv"> emily´s last blog post &#8230;<a href="http://www.mplsrealfoodlover.com/2009/10/inspiring-sweet-recipe-links.html" rel="nofollow">Inspiring (sweet) Recipe Links</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://www.foodrenegade.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, maybe it has something to do with the factors mentioned in the second graph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, maybe it has something to do with the factors mentioned in the second graph.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that&#039;s great!   I&#039;m going to show this to people.

One question:  Shouldn&#039;t the bars be about the same for both of them when they ate 0 teaspoons?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s great!   I&#8217;m going to show this to people.</p>
<p>One question:  Shouldn&#8217;t the bars be about the same for both of them when they ate 0 teaspoons?</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hope all the butter (mostly grass fed, raw) I eat now will make up for the years of margarine use!  My grandfather, father and great uncle all died in their mid-50&#039;s from heart attacks.

The fact that this data has been around for about 3 decades, and the government and health industry continue to perpetuate the lie is CRIMINAL!!!

In fact, I just saw an article in Family Circle titled &quot;The Best Diet For Everyone&quot;.  &quot;Packed with good carbs, healthy fats and even dessert, this meal plan-created for those with diabetes-is really the smartest way for all of us to eat.&quot;  The dairy recommendations per day?  Two servings:  1 cup fat-free or 1% milk, 6oz. fat-free plain or flavored yogurt, 1 cup fat-free or low-fat soy milk, 1 cup low-fat or fat free buttermilk, or 1/3 cup dry fat-free milk.  Disgusting!  There&#039;s not one healthy choice on the list.  Some of the healthy fat suggestions (4 a day): 1 tsp. margarine, 1 tsp. canola or olive oil, 1 T reduced-fat mayo, or 2 T reduced-fat salad dressing.  Not a sign of real butter anywhere.  Grains: 8 servings a day.  Like you said Kristen... Wow.  Just wow.   I really need to quit looking at mainstream magazines.  They drive me crazy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope all the butter (mostly grass fed, raw) I eat now will make up for the years of margarine use!  My grandfather, father and great uncle all died in their mid-50&#8217;s from heart attacks.</p>
<p>The fact that this data has been around for about 3 decades, and the government and health industry continue to perpetuate the lie is CRIMINAL!!!</p>
<p>In fact, I just saw an article in Family Circle titled &#8220;The Best Diet For Everyone&#8221;.  &#8220;Packed with good carbs, healthy fats and even dessert, this meal plan-created for those with diabetes-is really the smartest way for all of us to eat.&#8221;  The dairy recommendations per day?  Two servings:  1 cup fat-free or 1% milk, 6oz. fat-free plain or flavored yogurt, 1 cup fat-free or low-fat soy milk, 1 cup low-fat or fat free buttermilk, or 1/3 cup dry fat-free milk.  Disgusting!  There&#8217;s not one healthy choice on the list.  Some of the healthy fat suggestions (4 a day): 1 tsp. margarine, 1 tsp. canola or olive oil, 1 T reduced-fat mayo, or 2 T reduced-fat salad dressing.  Not a sign of real butter anywhere.  Grains: 8 servings a day.  Like you said Kristen&#8230; Wow.  Just wow.   I really need to quit looking at mainstream magazines.  They drive me crazy!</p>
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